I mean the added hp would be nice if I ever decide to step up my weights over 125k lbs but I need to be able to get into construction sites and many can be tight, plus some city streets where the sites are located can also be difficult to navigate with a truck that turns like a battleship.

I guess my biggest concern is the turning radius of the Titan. Question though about the Mdrive, Is the only way to manually shift it from the pad all the way to the far right on the dash or is it like the Allison 12 speeds where they have paddle shifters on the wheel? I would think reaching across the dash would become a danger. I too am old school and I think I will stick with either the 13 or 18 speed trans. I have always driven manual trucks wether it be dump trucks or lowboys. I am not sure I will like not being able to control my gears. I don't know where people get that Ohio is flat. Well in southern Ohio where a lot of the work is it is not very flat, in fact some routes can get pretty scetchy, ( steep grades 90 degree turns at the bottom of the grades, etc. I guess it depends how much these things cost. When I recently chatted with a Mack salesman, he recommended not getting the mDrive HD for 'such low weights.' I can't see how it would hurt. BTW, I used to pull 125,000 daily with a 400hp c15 Cat. Only if you were in the mountains every day would I suggest a 500+hp 16L.

Hint: most of the Ontario Macks are CXU's 505/1850 mp8's with 14,600 + 46,000 axles and suspensions, 18spd or mDrive, and often geared around 3.73, 3.91 or even 4.11 (although I've only seen the latter on Western trucks.) By law we all have speed governors set at 65mph. Why don't you look at some Canadian dealers sites and see how they spec their trucks? I see you're in Ohio, which is pretty flat: Southern Ontario would be the most similar. Geared and spec'd right they do just fine.

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